We have 2 RR6+, ST/SO. We got these ebikes knowing their too heavy for steep hills so we avoid that kind of trekking. But we do moderate grade hills that would be tough on a regular bike, without a problem. The power issue I get. But I want to stay Class II so I can have a PAS AND a throttle with access to all bike trails/paths. Our bikes do all this without difficulties. We ride comfortably for HOURS. As for power, we have plenty for our needs. Some need more power for other kinds of riding. Then there's the fact no one likes to be bamboozled. Understood. All I can say is I'm satisfied with my purchases. We have had great outings and are planning more. To each his own.